1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:04,430 i'm john rutledge AKA eggsy from 2 00:00:09,770 --> 00:00:06,930 visionary rap group the GLC lover of 3 00:00:12,169 --> 00:00:09,780 mystery disciple of intrigue own my 4 00:00:14,749 --> 00:00:12,179 father's comedian qualified PE teacher 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:14,759 i'll a fact secret proof we're on a 6 00:00:19,510 --> 00:00:16,410 quest to unexplained the most 7 00:00:32,540 --> 00:00:19,520 unexplainable mysteries or we are the 8 00:00:35,299 --> 00:00:32,550 unexplained errs ok forward go forward 9 00:00:37,130 --> 00:00:35,309 keep going so I thought um campeones 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:37,140 under my doesn't pillow keep up in okay 11 00:00:40,549 --> 00:00:38,850 let's go move on to pillowcase on just 12 00:00:42,619 --> 00:00:40,559 right moves just a little bit more 13 00:00:43,790 --> 00:00:42,629 liberal more pack a little bit closer my 14 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:43,800 head you okay why have you got 15 00:00:47,569 --> 00:00:45,510 pillowcase on your hair I'm just taking 16 00:00:49,610 --> 00:00:47,579 you to possibly one of the hottest hot 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:49,620 beds of all hot bed UFO site in action 18 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:51,690 in the world well guess where we are 19 00:00:57,650 --> 00:00:55,440 Mike no complains Perot close okay but 20 00:01:00,349 --> 00:00:57,660 rain in a little bit but the Roswell 21 00:01:01,549 --> 00:01:00,359 elliptical classic hot spot but not 22 00:01:04,250 --> 00:01:01,559 exactly where we are 23 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:04,260 bring it a little bit more UK's right to 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:07,110 listen for a very good answer pop it off 25 00:01:14,210 --> 00:01:13,490 look where we are Mike Swansea you 26 00:01:16,429 --> 00:01:14,220 surpassed yourself 27 00:01:17,899 --> 00:01:16,439 I can't astrology every week yeah my 28 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:17,909 wife's ones yeah mother lawlessness 29 00:01:21,649 --> 00:01:19,890 wrong yeah so you must know that if you 30 00:01:23,270 --> 00:01:21,659 listen to that someone's have been 31 00:01:26,149 --> 00:01:23,280 caught up on a hot strike there this is 32 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:26,159 a hotbed of UFO action it doesn't spell 33 00:01:29,179 --> 00:01:28,170 alien to me where he ever them look look 34 00:01:31,249 --> 00:01:29,189 what's in front of us snacks 35 00:01:33,530 --> 00:01:31,259 ten feet above us on a Bricklin yeah 36 00:01:35,810 --> 00:01:33,540 it's quite a famous Swansea landmark out 37 00:01:37,670 --> 00:01:35,820 of the anti-aircraft gun was protected 38 00:01:39,050 --> 00:01:37,680 so as you do in the the Swansea blitz in 39 00:01:40,850 --> 00:01:39,060 the second ball that's a 94 millimeter 40 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:40,860 are cADCA yeah you're absolutely right 41 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:42,000 you're spot-on but you know this is have 42 00:01:45,020 --> 00:01:43,320 a second lease of life you know reason 43 00:01:47,450 --> 00:01:45,030 why here now pointed up at the sky into 44 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:47,460 the clouds there's a monument ah is it 45 00:01:50,990 --> 00:01:49,170 or is it a secret weapon that's now 46 00:01:52,700 --> 00:01:51,000 being redesigned and pointed up the sky 47 00:01:54,350 --> 00:01:52,710 to protect the people of Swansea now 48 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:54,360 it's what's called decommission rate 49 00:01:57,900 --> 00:01:56,290 there wouldn't even live gun 50 00:02:01,320 --> 00:01:57,910 another downtown's wanderer that hasn't 51 00:02:02,670 --> 00:02:01,330 worked with 1944 now 5 yeah for 72 year 52 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:02,680 old girl yeah I mean you obviously 53 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:04,000 thinking of the traditional you know 54 00:02:07,410 --> 00:02:06,010 these giant shells that are used any of 55 00:02:09,450 --> 00:02:07,420 these decommissioned remember the other 56 00:02:12,090 --> 00:02:09,460 pure energy gunner on Energon blaster 57 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:12,100 that is right above the sky exactly 58 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:13,330 where they come down from you know this 59 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:15,130 place has seen so many sightings of 60s 60 00:02:18,540 --> 00:02:16,480 there were cigar shaped objects over 61 00:02:20,730 --> 00:02:18,550 hospitals even right up to this year 62 00:02:22,290 --> 00:02:20,740 things have happened this is a hot bag 63 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:22,300 hotter than in between your legs on a 64 00:02:26,310 --> 00:02:23,920 summer's day after you've been for a run 65 00:02:27,780 --> 00:02:26,320 it's a high bullosa hot then meaning hot 66 00:02:29,790 --> 00:02:27,790 but I have an encounter every life Eve 67 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:29,800 the pubs in the clubs for the cafes and 68 00:02:33,780 --> 00:02:31,810 the bars and a park and the museum's the 69 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:33,790 Galleria Swansea I mean it's a lot of 70 00:02:37,740 --> 00:02:35,770 talk of discos swimming and eating food 71 00:02:39,300 --> 00:02:37,750 there what you're not doing is looking 72 00:02:41,310 --> 00:02:39,310 where I've been looking and where other 73 00:02:42,780 --> 00:02:41,320 people in the same locale have been 74 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:42,790 looking for a very long time but where 75 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:44,110 you're meeting these are like more than 76 00:02:48,030 --> 00:02:45,850 individuals how I use the word minded 77 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:48,040 but a very broad sense that's where you 78 00:02:50,610 --> 00:02:49,090 go wrong I've been going to a place 79 00:02:52,199 --> 00:02:50,620 called the Internet which exists not 80 00:02:53,130 --> 00:02:52,209 only in Swansea but all around the world 81 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:53,140 wants to surprise 82 00:02:56,490 --> 00:02:54,610 do you know ever tell you about the 83 00:02:57,690 --> 00:02:56,500 petals of stay in your little room we'll 84 00:02:59,640 --> 00:02:57,700 just play on internal bed there's 85 00:03:01,920 --> 00:02:59,650 nothing dangerous about communicating 86 00:03:03,630 --> 00:03:01,930 with like-minded fun chums and that's 87 00:03:05,430 --> 00:03:03,640 what I've done and I find a group of 88 00:03:07,530 --> 00:03:05,440 people who can give you so much detail 89 00:03:09,210 --> 00:03:07,540 about this hotbed your face will explode 90 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:09,220 and your legs will fall off and run off 91 00:03:10,890 --> 00:03:09,910 in fear 92 00:03:12,750 --> 00:03:10,900 watch your body lies on the floor 93 00:03:14,340 --> 00:03:12,760 wriggling and doing this cool well now I 94 00:03:16,949 --> 00:03:14,350 finally believe him and that won't even 95 00:03:19,650 --> 00:03:16,959 be a mouth speaking we've headed out to 96 00:03:23,039 --> 00:03:19,660 meet John Stanford East aka sue font aka 97 00:03:25,350 --> 00:03:23,049 the Swans UFO network at a ULP aka an 98 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:25,360 unidentified local pub and identify 99 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:27,250 because the hood was back on in case I 100 00:03:33,870 --> 00:03:29,650 was John's words at government agents 101 00:03:35,420 --> 00:03:33,880 right Mike come with me from this store 102 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:35,430 it might be on set 103 00:03:42,270 --> 00:03:39,610 evenin everybody John oh hello is Mike 104 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:42,280 Mike welcome to sue font hello sue fog 105 00:03:45,449 --> 00:03:44,410 steve ambling i believe you two guys are 106 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:45,459 in charge here 107 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:47,320 well I would say insurance that yes we 108 00:03:51,330 --> 00:03:49,690 founded it okay to the sake of Mike and 109 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:51,340 the listeners could you just ask exactly 110 00:03:55,740 --> 00:03:53,650 what Superfund is big interest in it in 111 00:03:57,690 --> 00:03:55,750 order to do something more practical 112 00:03:59,370 --> 00:03:57,700 instead of just following it on the 113 00:04:00,660 --> 00:03:59,380 internet or reading books we found a 114 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:00,670 venue for a first meeting because 115 00:04:05,310 --> 00:04:02,530 article in the local paper and Evening 116 00:04:06,629 --> 00:04:05,320 Post and 45 people turned up we can't 117 00:04:09,210 --> 00:04:06,639 believe it well on the first on the 118 00:04:11,430 --> 00:04:09,220 first the first wait yeah so we started 119 00:04:13,860 --> 00:04:11,440 compiling a database and weed up to 440 120 00:04:14,820 --> 00:04:13,870 cases now you also got two big ring 121 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:14,830 binder folders here 122 00:04:20,099 --> 00:04:17,890 I taught PE for ten years so I've never 123 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:20,109 seen files of words before I literally 124 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:22,000 just I would have a whistle and a can-do 125 00:04:25,530 --> 00:04:23,650 attitude but I know that where other 126 00:04:26,910 --> 00:04:25,540 teachers were had these sort of things 127 00:04:28,980 --> 00:04:26,920 I made they very much look down on if 128 00:04:30,090 --> 00:04:28,990 I'm not using them is this a gathering 129 00:04:31,710 --> 00:04:30,100 of evidence you've got yet we saw 130 00:04:34,050 --> 00:04:31,720 through the local newspapers in the 131 00:04:36,660 --> 00:04:34,060 library you look at the energy reports I 132 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:36,670 want you to play beverage case and 133 00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:37,810 purchase for the listeners they're both 134 00:04:41,370 --> 00:04:39,520 pretty fun a sort of three and yes they 135 00:04:43,740 --> 00:04:41,380 really scored on a thought the cases are 136 00:04:45,450 --> 00:04:43,750 so we we know that stuff is happening 137 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:45,460 here in Swansea which is brilliant 138 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:46,810 because quite often you hear that it's 139 00:04:50,940 --> 00:04:49,330 it's in you know America or South 140 00:04:52,620 --> 00:04:50,950 America or parts of the world that are 141 00:04:53,550 --> 00:04:52,630 just impossible to act that you'd need 142 00:04:55,410 --> 00:04:53,560 to go jetting around the world cause 143 00:04:56,670 --> 00:04:55,420 it's all happening in South Wales yeah 144 00:04:58,860 --> 00:04:56,680 so can you give us an example 145 00:05:01,200 --> 00:04:58,870 can you give us an example of one of the 146 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:01,210 sort of more prominent cases that you 147 00:05:05,070 --> 00:05:03,010 guys have investigated or spoke over 148 00:05:06,450 --> 00:05:05,080 like one particular case we really 149 00:05:08,250 --> 00:05:06,460 interested in and we tracking down as 150 00:05:10,620 --> 00:05:08,260 many witnesses as we can as what we've 151 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:10,630 termed the night of the triangles the 152 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:13,120 19th of January 1983 there was dozens 153 00:05:16,770 --> 00:05:14,410 and dozens of sightings all on the 154 00:05:19,710 --> 00:05:16,780 Swansea area and indeed cost South Wales 155 00:05:22,409 --> 00:05:19,720 on that particular evening of triangle 156 00:05:25,530 --> 00:05:22,419 shaped craft different sizes some the 157 00:05:29,340 --> 00:05:25,540 size of jumbo jets or football fields on 158 00:05:30,540 --> 00:05:29,350 the size of a family saloon car UFO mg 159 00:05:32,490 --> 00:05:30,550 we get gold 160 00:05:34,409 --> 00:05:32,500 these guys had uncovered a mass UFO 161 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:34,419 sighting I haven't been this excited 162 00:05:40,980 --> 00:05:37,570 about shaping weeks blattar yet Natalie 163 00:05:42,810 --> 00:05:40,990 one of the group was a witness yeah um 164 00:05:45,930 --> 00:05:42,820 yeah there's 1983 165 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:45,940 that evening I came out of the house I 166 00:05:51,330 --> 00:05:48,490 was looking at lights very PESTEL II 167 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:51,340 lovely kind of pulsating like it was 168 00:05:56,940 --> 00:05:54,370 hovering 40 feet above the pavement so 169 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:56,950 10 feet above the housetops at me so I 170 00:06:02,460 --> 00:05:58,690 watched it for five minutes called 171 00:06:04,770 --> 00:06:02,470 family out my stepfather my sister they 172 00:06:06,390 --> 00:06:04,780 saw it and a lot of needs on the street 173 00:06:08,159 --> 00:06:06,400 were looking at it too you could hear a 174 00:06:10,530 --> 00:06:08,169 pin drop it was like this silence is 175 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:10,540 stillness it was January she's been cold 176 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:12,490 didn't feel cold a little bit so a year 177 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:14,530 after ET came out so we freaked out by 178 00:06:18,390 --> 00:06:16,450 that no I'm actually Beaufort felt very 179 00:06:20,909 --> 00:06:18,400 comfortable I waited for it to go you 180 00:06:22,510 --> 00:06:20,919 just disappeared I didn't see it dispute 181 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:22,520 you know it's a very strange 182 00:06:26,020 --> 00:06:23,810 we all try to make sense out of what 183 00:06:28,719 --> 00:06:26,030 we're seeing there is take mother Israel 184 00:06:30,369 --> 00:06:28,729 there is every time you know you are you 185 00:06:31,779 --> 00:06:30,379 talk about it if it comes up in 186 00:06:34,270 --> 00:06:31,789 conversation your ridicule and you're 187 00:06:36,070 --> 00:06:34,280 like you're one of those and I'm and I 188 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:36,080 just wear houses now a lot of people 189 00:06:40,659 --> 00:06:39,110 have come to us because they've want to 190 00:06:42,430 --> 00:06:40,669 get things off their chest shooting it 191 00:06:44,379 --> 00:06:42,440 on slugging a meetin if you like then 192 00:06:46,570 --> 00:06:44,389 that's some of them in almost in tears 193 00:06:48,219 --> 00:06:46,580 talking about it sometimes they come 194 00:06:49,749 --> 00:06:48,229 back sometimes they haven't but they've 195 00:06:51,779 --> 00:06:49,759 gone away or that great sense of relief 196 00:06:53,950 --> 00:06:51,789 so it certainly fulfill that for us I 197 00:06:55,990 --> 00:06:53,960 was used to John's flights or internet 198 00:06:59,290 --> 00:06:56,000 fancy but these were sensible people 199 00:07:01,960 --> 00:06:59,300 good people policemen teachers animal 200 00:07:03,339 --> 00:07:01,970 husbandry experts within their company I 201 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:03,349 thought come to old enough to reveal 202 00:07:07,659 --> 00:07:05,289 something I'd never revealed before you 203 00:07:08,980 --> 00:07:07,669 know why it was actually very very 204 00:07:10,990 --> 00:07:08,990 fascinating for me where amongst friends 205 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:11,000 now it was described as being a bit like 206 00:07:14,649 --> 00:07:13,250 in our Daleks Anonymous meeting I'd been 207 00:07:17,230 --> 00:07:14,659 to one of them I'm going to come out and 208 00:07:18,580 --> 00:07:17,240 say now that no I saw a UFO this this he 209 00:07:20,379 --> 00:07:18,590 suddenly talked this is bigger than 210 00:07:21,939 --> 00:07:20,389 Colin and Mary Keith meet general agenda 211 00:07:24,450 --> 00:07:21,949 seem like a colonic irrigation for mean 212 00:07:27,189 --> 00:07:24,460 arm cleansing myself back in the 80s I 213 00:07:29,379 --> 00:07:27,199 was at my grandmother's place in mirth 214 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:29,389 avail and I saw the head of an arrow 215 00:07:33,010 --> 00:07:31,849 like seven lights in the sky above the 216 00:07:34,180 --> 00:07:33,020 opposite mountain 217 00:07:35,980 --> 00:07:34,190 I remember what look on the window thing 218 00:07:38,890 --> 00:07:35,990 in Worcester and then suddenly this 219 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:38,900 thing just went and it just shot in a 220 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:40,400 southerly direction so this is brilliant 221 00:07:43,659 --> 00:07:41,930 because Mike normally punches me in the 222 00:07:45,219 --> 00:07:43,669 face for talking about anything like 223 00:07:46,180 --> 00:07:45,229 this and he's just admit we made to 224 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:46,190 witnessing some of the things I've 225 00:07:50,620 --> 00:07:48,800 always wanted to see oh I like over here 226 00:07:52,269 --> 00:07:50,630 I feel I feel naked I feel vulnerable 227 00:07:53,980 --> 00:07:52,279 it's great welcome to the Brotherhood 228 00:08:01,450 --> 00:07:53,990 Mike let's give Mike a big round of 229 00:08:04,149 --> 00:08:01,460 applause yeah I finally ground him down 230 00:08:06,010 --> 00:08:04,159 Mike was now one of us it was time for 231 00:08:08,980 --> 00:08:06,020 me to extract as much new information 232 00:08:14,830 --> 00:08:08,990 from his experience as possible it was 233 00:08:16,899 --> 00:08:14,840 time to begin probing Wow w Oh WTF wow 234 00:08:19,209 --> 00:08:16,909 what a great meeting what a great bunch 235 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:19,219 of people very very nice no we heard the 236 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:20,330 facts yep 237 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:23,810 and what's pull up my mind is you openly 238 00:08:28,420 --> 00:08:25,370 speak about being taking on board no 239 00:08:30,159 --> 00:08:28,430 [\h__\h] no joke you have been drunk you've 240 00:08:31,540 --> 00:08:30,169 never mentioned this listen why this is 241 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:31,550 why that I didn't mention it you before 242 00:08:35,019 --> 00:08:33,289 I knew it I knew this would have been 243 00:08:36,610 --> 00:08:35,029 badly for me right they leave scars on 244 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:36,620 your body shut that ain't leave in part 245 00:08:40,029 --> 00:08:38,510 the reason I didn't say any of the past 246 00:08:41,290 --> 00:08:40,039 did they wash your boiled egg inside of 247 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:41,300 you see if you prefer to that didn't 248 00:08:45,730 --> 00:08:43,370 happen right but I'm just saying I saw 249 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:45,740 something as a young man I've kept it to 250 00:08:49,030 --> 00:08:47,570 myself for the very reason that I knew 251 00:08:51,460 --> 00:08:49,040 if I said anything you would spin it 252 00:08:53,829 --> 00:08:51,470 into some weird story you have an egg 253 00:08:54,970 --> 00:08:53,839 pushed inside me and being abducted by 254 00:08:56,530 --> 00:08:54,980 an alien that didn't happen 255 00:08:58,449 --> 00:08:56,540 well how long were you on non-supe I 256 00:09:01,360 --> 00:08:58,459 wasn't on a ship was i those names front 257 00:09:03,490 --> 00:09:01,370 room so the ship would like your man's 258 00:09:05,230 --> 00:09:03,500 front room it was exactly the same as it 259 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:05,240 was my name's red rose in st. so they 260 00:09:10,269 --> 00:09:07,490 line did you that much with their their 261 00:09:12,069 --> 00:09:10,279 science they recreated enhancement room 262 00:09:13,660 --> 00:09:12,079 listen to what I'm saying you little 263 00:09:14,889 --> 00:09:13,670 bird yeah I was not a ship I wasn't 264 00:09:16,930 --> 00:09:14,899 gonna probe there were no eggs go 265 00:09:20,230 --> 00:09:16,940 anywhere near me okay so they tried to 266 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:20,240 make a clone of you in your now slalom 267 00:09:25,210 --> 00:09:23,450 as a boy which is very interesting but 268 00:09:27,819 --> 00:09:25,220 we have to stick to the facts Mike that 269 00:09:30,970 --> 00:09:27,829 please do the facts are I saw something 270 00:09:32,380 --> 00:09:30,980 which I couldn't explain we were armed 271 00:09:34,389 --> 00:09:32,390 with Sioux Falls research and list of 272 00:09:35,740 --> 00:09:34,399 reports we needed to find a view point 273 00:09:37,660 --> 00:09:35,750 from which we could visualize the events 274 00:09:41,380 --> 00:09:37,670 of that night we're better than the 275 00:09:44,019 --> 00:09:41,390 world's 189,000 456 tours but Wales's 276 00:09:47,110 --> 00:09:44,029 tallest building the swansea meridian 277 00:09:48,010 --> 00:09:47,120 tower so right now we are at the top of 278 00:09:50,019 --> 00:09:48,020 the tower that's a hell of a view 279 00:09:51,670 --> 00:09:50,029 Camilla Swansea for 20 years dollars 280 00:09:53,860 --> 00:09:51,680 I've never seen this view before we've 281 00:09:55,269 --> 00:09:53,870 got pretty much a 360-degree view we can 282 00:09:58,449 --> 00:09:55,279 walk around the entire top of this tower 283 00:10:00,730 --> 00:09:58,459 and see some miles so we're in makes the 284 00:10:02,949 --> 00:10:00,740 middle of Swansea Bay it's a huge way 285 00:10:04,300 --> 00:10:02,959 looking north back towards the city and 286 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:04,310 the hill the city's built on and when 287 00:10:08,380 --> 00:10:05,570 you look out across there you realize 288 00:10:11,139 --> 00:10:08,390 how densely populated a large a large 289 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:11,149 matter this area is although there's two 290 00:10:14,769 --> 00:10:12,890 sides of this one is that it tells us a 291 00:10:17,110 --> 00:10:14,779 lot of people saw the same thing on the 292 00:10:18,220 --> 00:10:17,120 same leg back in 83 yeah also tells me 293 00:10:19,630 --> 00:10:18,230 looking we've got probably hundreds 294 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:19,640 thousands of people in the other four in 295 00:10:23,130 --> 00:10:20,890 more than 25 I'm going to see 296 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:23,140 we can chart the areas that match up 297 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:25,690 with the sightings we could find out 298 00:10:30,570 --> 00:10:27,010 we're probably the best place to go 299 00:10:32,430 --> 00:10:30,580 would be here and I guarantee we will 300 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:32,440 within the next two hours be on board 301 00:10:38,100 --> 00:10:35,250 the ship and they'll be probing it 302 00:10:39,690 --> 00:10:38,110 around official look for a good cup of 303 00:10:40,350 --> 00:10:39,700 coffee first of all let's get a hot 304 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:40,360 drink first 305 00:10:44,850 --> 00:10:42,250 yeah and then nose until we fully get 306 00:10:46,260 --> 00:10:44,860 probed prabhas's okay let's get a hot 307 00:10:49,620 --> 00:10:46,270 drink to clean ourselves out and then 308 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:49,630 hopefully probing your incomes I wanted 309 00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:50,770 to take the owner to these unidentified 310 00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:52,000 floating objects 311 00:10:55,470 --> 00:10:53,920 I sent the reports off to the kharab 312 00:10:57,870 --> 00:10:55,480 School of Engineering hopeful they would 313 00:10:59,400 --> 00:10:57,880 have a floppy or fly profit who could 314 00:11:03,240 --> 00:10:59,410 rationally explain these mysterious 315 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:03,250 triangles right your missus call a place 316 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:05,530 where science happens double aground wow 317 00:11:08,730 --> 00:11:07,090 this is like a type of school man our 318 00:11:10,950 --> 00:11:08,740 imagine market well in the materials 319 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:10,960 laboratory and with ology with an 320 00:11:15,390 --> 00:11:13,330 emphasis on the aeronautics there's sort 321 00:11:17,070 --> 00:11:15,400 of a cavalcade of computer screens and 322 00:11:19,650 --> 00:11:17,080 things at the other end of the room and 323 00:11:21,660 --> 00:11:19,660 a full-size young airplane wing which is 324 00:11:22,950 --> 00:11:21,670 pretty impressive I don't know where 325 00:11:24,990 --> 00:11:22,960 they keep the rest of the plane but this 326 00:11:26,670 --> 00:11:25,000 is Nydia but sort of the ways is good 327 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:26,680 but we call that in look that's known as 328 00:11:30,330 --> 00:11:28,810 that the right wing okay as opposed to 329 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:30,340 the left wing yet she's the other one 330 00:11:32,970 --> 00:11:32,170 was in a sort of yeah they have to Donny 331 00:11:38,550 --> 00:11:32,980 that's right 332 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:38,560 okay dr. Wayne marks MN PhD LCG I am I 333 00:11:43,410 --> 00:11:42,370 am ECE ara es a respected fluffin had 334 00:11:45,930 --> 00:11:43,420 accepted the challenge 335 00:11:48,420 --> 00:11:45,940 Oh Ryan I am Mike doing my smoke smoking 336 00:11:49,620 --> 00:11:48,430 sign birth dr. Ryan nice to meet you 337 00:11:51,540 --> 00:11:49,630 just like all you do rose I'm a 338 00:11:54,030 --> 00:11:51,550 aerospace research here at Cardiff 339 00:11:55,980 --> 00:11:54,040 University are many focused on taking 340 00:11:57,810 --> 00:11:55,990 damage in aerospace structures can I 341 00:12:00,180 --> 00:11:57,820 call you Ryan or the other o Reilly Ryan 342 00:12:03,150 --> 00:12:00,190 is dr de gankelaar [\h__\h] dr sounds 343 00:12:05,190 --> 00:12:03,160 quite good so doctor the case study that 344 00:12:06,210 --> 00:12:05,200 we've been looking at the night of the 345 00:12:08,730 --> 00:12:06,220 triangle in particular 346 00:12:10,590 --> 00:12:08,740 1983 January was a doctor well I first 347 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:10,600 heard this I was thinking a DeltaWing 348 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:13,450 craft like a like a stealth bomber when 349 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:15,010 you first emailed me and said about 350 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:16,450 flying triangles I instantly thought 351 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:18,010 this is opening shirt this is going to 352 00:12:22,950 --> 00:12:20,170 be really easy 1982 we just had the 353 00:12:24,330 --> 00:12:22,960 Falklands War where the Volcom bomber 354 00:12:26,850 --> 00:12:24,340 was used so they were still in service 355 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:26,860 which is triangular shape aircraft until 356 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:28,450 I read some of the eyewitness accounts 357 00:12:33,780 --> 00:12:31,510 which then let me scratching my head now 358 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:33,790 as far as I'm concerned these are 359 00:12:36,430 --> 00:12:34,610 craftsmen 360 00:12:37,870 --> 00:12:36,440 mention these convinced about this I 361 00:12:40,150 --> 00:12:37,880 mean there's there's no there's no room 362 00:12:41,650 --> 00:12:40,160 for argument here is really explanation 363 00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:41,660 that has to be more plausible a 364 00:12:47,259 --> 00:12:44,480 scientist first me we do is look at the 365 00:12:48,579 --> 00:12:47,269 evidence and trying for conclusions so 366 00:12:50,410 --> 00:12:48,589 what have you noticed from any of these 367 00:12:52,750 --> 00:12:50,420 case studies there's a commonality 368 00:12:55,509 --> 00:12:52,760 between all of them and that is they saw 369 00:12:58,090 --> 00:12:55,519 some sort of flying craft however there 370 00:13:00,250 --> 00:12:58,100 are some differences we have accounts 371 00:13:02,230 --> 00:13:00,260 that range in size from size of a small 372 00:13:04,509 --> 00:13:02,240 family car right all the way up to twice 373 00:13:07,150 --> 00:13:04,519 the size of a 747 jumbo jet which is 374 00:13:09,699 --> 00:13:07,160 math as a big different there are some 375 00:13:11,889 --> 00:13:09,709 commonalities however between all of the 376 00:13:13,269 --> 00:13:11,899 accounts and that is that typically 377 00:13:15,940 --> 00:13:13,279 there were some lights on board this 378 00:13:17,170 --> 00:13:15,950 craft but the biggest commonality 379 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:17,180 between all of the accounts is that 380 00:13:21,610 --> 00:13:19,370 there was no smell and there's no sound 381 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:21,620 any aircraft I've seen that be made by 382 00:13:26,199 --> 00:13:23,450 humans make a lot of noise and they 383 00:13:27,490 --> 00:13:26,209 smell quite bad this smell coid but yeah 384 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:27,500 I've been closed to aeroplanes and they 385 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:27,890 stink 386 00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:30,050 if the aircraft's making no sound that 387 00:13:33,250 --> 00:13:32,480 really starts to wiggle it down to two 388 00:13:36,579 --> 00:13:33,260 possibilities 389 00:13:38,620 --> 00:13:36,589 a ver a a glider or some sort of 390 00:13:40,509 --> 00:13:38,630 lighter-than-air craft though there are 391 00:13:43,060 --> 00:13:40,519 large-scale gliders typically they're 392 00:13:45,069 --> 00:13:43,070 quite small and don't tend to fly at 393 00:13:47,290 --> 00:13:45,079 night to the such or a more likely 394 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:47,300 situation was that it's a lighter than 395 00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:49,250 aircraft you really look at a hot air 396 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:52,160 balloon type or an airship okay I have 397 00:13:57,730 --> 00:13:54,970 done some digging let's go back to 1983 398 00:14:00,670 --> 00:13:57,740 during the Falklands War hms sheffield 399 00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:00,680 was actually attacked and sunk so this 400 00:14:06,189 --> 00:14:02,510 gave a requirement to investigate 401 00:14:07,780 --> 00:14:06,199 airborne early-warning vehicles okay 402 00:14:10,569 --> 00:14:07,790 right yeah a British company called 403 00:14:13,630 --> 00:14:10,579 airship industries in the early 80s were 404 00:14:19,060 --> 00:14:13,640 developing a airship called the sky ship 405 00:14:21,460 --> 00:14:19,070 500 and in 1983 the sky ship 500 was 406 00:14:23,620 --> 00:14:21,470 actually put on trial by the British 407 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:23,630 Navy Swansea being on the coast 408 00:14:28,420 --> 00:14:25,970 these were naval trials so it's quite 409 00:14:31,630 --> 00:14:28,430 possible that this such craft was out in 410 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:31,640 the Atlantic testing early warning 411 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:34,610 devices have you got any images of what 412 00:14:37,180 --> 00:14:36,050 yeah it's a little bit local so the 413 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:37,190 craft would actually looks something 414 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:38,720 like that 415 00:14:42,939 --> 00:14:40,610 we're already standard sort of airship 416 00:14:44,830 --> 00:14:42,949 style well I'll just explain them if 417 00:14:46,660 --> 00:14:44,840 people know earlier ship looks like you 418 00:14:48,670 --> 00:14:46,670 Zeppelin airship right with with the 419 00:14:50,260 --> 00:14:48,680 fins in the back of a contra knee but 420 00:14:52,570 --> 00:14:50,270 then what's interesting to me is above 421 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:52,580 that you've got the same ship at night 422 00:14:56,410 --> 00:14:54,290 with its I assume some sort of running 423 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:56,420 lights on me yeah those three lights 424 00:15:00,850 --> 00:14:58,970 there John yeah you see those yeah no 425 00:15:03,550 --> 00:15:00,860 imagine drawing a line in your mind 426 00:15:03,940 --> 00:15:03,560 between those one two three what you 427 00:15:08,260 --> 00:15:03,950 have 428 00:15:11,410 --> 00:15:08,270 I mean it's I'm sort of a geometric 429 00:15:13,630 --> 00:15:11,420 image yeah three pointed to three 430 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:13,640 pointed geometric shape also known as 431 00:15:18,430 --> 00:15:16,730 member school some of the nuns yes 432 00:15:19,810 --> 00:15:18,440 beating it into me it's triangle it's a 433 00:15:22,900 --> 00:15:19,820 trial nature a trial oh yeah he's a 434 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:22,910 trying yeah right if I was in Swansea 30 435 00:15:26,890 --> 00:15:25,010 years ago and I saw three lights in the 436 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:26,900 sky like that I couldn't explain them 437 00:15:31,210 --> 00:15:28,490 there's no there's no noise it's moving 438 00:15:33,070 --> 00:15:31,220 slowly I'm someone you think described 439 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:33,080 himself as a aviation geek and I've only 440 00:15:40,150 --> 00:15:37,310 ever seen one in 1983 in the dark it's 441 00:15:42,190 --> 00:15:40,160 difficult to conclude and again it's a 442 00:15:44,380 --> 00:15:42,200 big craft it's a craft of two sizes 443 00:15:45,700 --> 00:15:44,390 you've got the large envelope which does 444 00:15:47,650 --> 00:15:45,710 fall in line with people say it's a 445 00:15:49,690 --> 00:15:47,660 large craft but the small gondola 446 00:15:50,770 --> 00:15:49,700 underneath which is later which falls in 447 00:15:53,110 --> 00:15:50,780 line with people saying it's a small 448 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:53,120 craft but I saw something in the world 449 00:15:56,230 --> 00:15:54,410 fairly it would have been around that 450 00:15:57,610 --> 00:15:56,240 time maybe a little later just I want to 451 00:15:59,560 --> 00:15:57,620 interject that's the thing you saw that 452 00:16:01,600 --> 00:15:59,570 you said took you on board as planted an 453 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:01,610 egg inside of you would like to know 454 00:16:04,540 --> 00:16:02,930 it'll I don't want a new type of 455 00:16:06,460 --> 00:16:04,550 life-form no that's when you put two 456 00:16:08,620 --> 00:16:06,470 together made nine that Lincoln told me 457 00:16:10,420 --> 00:16:08,630 no I told you I've seen three lights and 458 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:10,430 they were moving from right to left 459 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:12,110 could be initially it could be your 460 00:16:16,060 --> 00:16:14,090 scientific approach and your answer to 461 00:16:17,410 --> 00:16:16,070 what you believe happened without the 462 00:16:19,570 --> 00:16:17,420 fog was robbed that happen we've got 463 00:16:21,670 --> 00:16:19,580 we've got an actual airship that was 464 00:16:23,410 --> 00:16:21,680 produced you know about happened he's 465 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:23,420 got actual photographs at my time making 466 00:16:28,630 --> 00:16:25,970 the exact shape of Lights that I saw 467 00:16:30,820 --> 00:16:28,640 others died yeah okay these things this 468 00:16:32,890 --> 00:16:30,830 is called our research on this cause of 469 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:32,900 telling evidence so you call this hard 470 00:16:36,310 --> 00:16:34,730 research and compelling evidence yeah 471 00:16:37,750 --> 00:16:36,320 what if I was to call it stuff and 472 00:16:40,090 --> 00:16:37,760 nonsense what if they could disguise 473 00:16:42,010 --> 00:16:40,100 themselves to look like this but in 474 00:16:42,810 --> 00:16:42,020 reality bet something else have you 475 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:42,820 thought about that 476 00:16:49,570 --> 00:16:47,110 and saying that possibility why would 477 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:49,580 aliens want to take the form of an 478 00:16:55,030 --> 00:16:51,410 airship surely you choose something a 479 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:55,040 bit more of a like a Spitfire yeah for a 480 00:17:02,180 --> 00:16:58,170 step or a subject yeah a plane John Sam 481 00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:02,190 a lair okay a motorbike that flies John 482 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:04,319 was on the ropes reading from dr. Rhines 483 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:05,850 thrusting knowledge and logical approach 484 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:08,730 but the fluffin wasn't finished the 485 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:10,770 prototype craft which is golf Bravo 486 00:17:15,740 --> 00:17:13,530 India hotel November I believe the same 487 00:17:18,679 --> 00:17:15,750 craft then went on to open up the Summer 488 00:17:20,179 --> 00:17:18,689 Olympics in 1984 s angeles los angeles 489 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:20,189 was a big clown a film 490 00:17:25,490 --> 00:17:22,770 yeah me and even better than that this 491 00:17:27,530 --> 00:17:25,500 story can take an even better turn then 492 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:27,540 went on to feature in the James Bond 493 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:29,970 film view to a kill yeah cos or an 494 00:17:34,460 --> 00:17:31,890 industry or in in delays over the fights 495 00:17:36,380 --> 00:17:34,470 Christopher Walken in a giant an airship 496 00:17:38,930 --> 00:17:36,390 it's amazing that is one of yet one of 497 00:17:40,909 --> 00:17:38,940 the guest films of all time yes exactly 498 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:40,919 when we alive is that fascinating and 499 00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:42,210 that brilliant you need nothing else to 500 00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:43,740 you I know need aliens or little green 501 00:17:47,299 --> 00:17:45,510 men or abductions I'm very excited got 502 00:17:49,549 --> 00:17:47,309 James Bond you've got the Le Olympics 503 00:17:50,930 --> 00:17:49,559 even get any room for this to actually 504 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:50,940 be a craft from another dimension 505 00:17:55,370 --> 00:17:52,770 I can't say with a hundred percent 506 00:17:57,770 --> 00:17:55,380 confidence that this was an airship I 507 00:17:59,659 --> 00:17:57,780 don't have the piece of writing from the 508 00:18:03,169 --> 00:17:59,669 military it says we were flying airship 509 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:03,179 so respond to that night but I'm 95% 510 00:18:08,090 --> 00:18:05,970 confident that this is a craft of human 511 00:18:09,710 --> 00:18:08,100 creation shall we say dr. Roy those 512 00:18:11,570 --> 00:18:09,720 earthly fantastic well you still wish 513 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:11,580 some of the facts may be a bit iffy but 514 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:13,410 I'll go with some of what you said and 515 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:15,210 we'll see how far we can get with that 516 00:18:19,580 --> 00:18:17,370 with my evidence later on well I'm sure 517 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:19,590 the truth is out there see someone's 518 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:22,890 willing to learn as well Mike Mike had 519 00:18:27,049 --> 00:18:25,290 his answers and I had mine my facts 520 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:27,059 could never be proven in a lab so I 521 00:18:31,549 --> 00:18:29,250 linked back up to Suppan to continue our 522 00:18:36,450 --> 00:18:31,559 research by looking up to the stars for 523 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:39,340 if this mangy common fluff between there 524 00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:41,210 in the ghoul really pretty impressive 525 00:18:45,759 --> 00:18:43,039 failure stunning absolutely I don't 526 00:18:47,379 --> 00:18:45,769 often feel grateful I know you and then 527 00:18:49,599 --> 00:18:47,389 often feel are you any sort of gratitude 528 00:18:51,879 --> 00:18:49,609 whatsoever like this is one of those 529 00:18:56,049 --> 00:18:51,889 rare moments John what I'm grateful to 530 00:18:57,820 --> 00:18:56,059 you because the view of the night sky is 531 00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:57,830 absolutely something else I mean this is 532 00:19:01,629 --> 00:18:59,840 probably the clearest night the orga see 533 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:01,639 thousands and thousands of thousands of 534 00:19:05,499 --> 00:19:03,049 stars I can see the Milky Way quite 535 00:19:07,509 --> 00:19:05,509 clearly on some consolation I can see 536 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:07,519 player D like two years of major I can 537 00:19:13,659 --> 00:19:11,450 see wicks the other sleek export they're 538 00:19:15,820 --> 00:19:13,669 not there are constellations and like 539 00:19:17,619 --> 00:19:15,830 bus no there's not there's not there's 540 00:19:19,180 --> 00:19:17,629 not platypus one assertion made you 541 00:19:21,190 --> 00:19:19,190 notice also the great bear held a big 542 00:19:23,049 --> 00:19:21,200 difference the argument Ryan the cat 543 00:19:26,019 --> 00:19:23,059 yeah no II figured of all Ryan you can't 544 00:19:28,570 --> 00:19:26,029 see that's below horizon kid packs just 545 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:28,580 all across there sit effect effects 546 00:19:32,649 --> 00:19:31,129 nebula and what's amazing about that is 547 00:19:35,529 --> 00:19:32,659 they named the correction fluid after 548 00:19:37,509 --> 00:19:35,539 that not amazing we moon because it was 549 00:19:39,820 --> 00:19:37,519 so brilliantly white they looked at it 550 00:19:41,889 --> 00:19:39,830 and they thought that's so white give 551 00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:41,899 you three like it vector nebula look 552 00:19:46,299 --> 00:19:44,960 movement so plunger now how did you know 553 00:19:47,859 --> 00:19:46,309 it's a plane let's go through the 554 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:47,869 checklist what's a UFO how do you 555 00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:50,210 describe a UFO I'll identify fly mugs 556 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:50,480 right 557 00:19:54,580 --> 00:19:52,850 what's that that's an identified flying 558 00:19:57,519 --> 00:19:54,590 object how do you also identified as an 559 00:19:59,019 --> 00:19:57,529 IFO how do you identify I got to play me 560 00:20:00,999 --> 00:19:59,029 I've seen planes before lots of times 561 00:20:02,169 --> 00:20:01,009 and that is definitely a plane but isn't 562 00:20:05,619 --> 00:20:02,179 it amazing the way it hangs in the sky 563 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:05,629 like that yeah with us so probably move 564 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:07,369 as you listen very carefully 565 00:20:13,180 --> 00:20:10,369 mmm you near the engine and let's prove 566 00:20:15,070 --> 00:20:13,190 to you there's not a plane as it yeah on 567 00:20:16,869 --> 00:20:15,080 a cold wintry common we met up with soo 568 00:20:19,509 --> 00:20:16,879 fun to hunt them light skies for 569 00:20:20,830 --> 00:20:19,519 evidence that we are not alone watch 570 00:20:24,340 --> 00:20:20,840 your watch your footing and what you 571 00:20:26,830 --> 00:20:24,350 acquitted hello everyone hello how long 572 00:20:28,539 --> 00:20:26,840 should a location point is a bit dark I 573 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:28,549 can sort of make you out look like a 574 00:20:31,210 --> 00:20:30,049 sinister cult but hopefully you know 575 00:20:33,430 --> 00:20:31,220 what's gonna happen tonight 576 00:20:35,229 --> 00:20:33,440 so you guys you just studied the the 577 00:20:37,389 --> 00:20:35,239 watch has just begun tonight is that 578 00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:37,399 right yeah and um you know what sort of 579 00:20:40,479 --> 00:20:38,809 things are we going to expect to see on 580 00:20:42,489 --> 00:20:40,489 an average sort of night out like this 581 00:20:45,129 --> 00:20:42,499 well the office is going to be meteors 582 00:20:47,030 --> 00:20:45,139 in it and an aircraft beyond satellite 583 00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:47,040 the odd site light 584 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:49,200 yeah but you never know we may get lucky 585 00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:51,090 yeah what sort of stuff will be looking 586 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:53,430 for anything that's that's not so what 587 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:55,650 we're basically looking for I suppose is 588 00:20:59,150 --> 00:20:57,600 a bright light in the sky which is 589 00:21:00,110 --> 00:20:59,160 moving that's the first thing we're 590 00:21:01,670 --> 00:21:00,120 looking for okay 591 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:01,680 and then we've got to rule out what it 592 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:03,450 is I mean obviously go look to see the 593 00:21:06,290 --> 00:21:05,010 obvious solutions what it is and 594 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:06,300 normally that that's what it is 595 00:21:09,140 --> 00:21:07,770 but I mean if something's moving in a 596 00:21:10,580 --> 00:21:09,150 straight line across the sky and 597 00:21:13,340 --> 00:21:10,590 suddenly moves off at a different angle 598 00:21:14,450 --> 00:21:13,350 that's really unusual isn't it so so 599 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:14,460 you're trying to basically discount 600 00:21:17,450 --> 00:21:15,810 things that couldn't be first that's 601 00:21:18,650 --> 00:21:17,460 right he has anything that you've seen 602 00:21:20,540 --> 00:21:18,660 in the last of the year and a half that 603 00:21:22,790 --> 00:21:20,550 this stood of you yeah we were done a 604 00:21:24,830 --> 00:21:22,800 crafty couple months back which is North 605 00:21:26,210 --> 00:21:24,840 Keller on the coast and about a mile 606 00:21:28,820 --> 00:21:26,220 away above the hell we saw an orange 607 00:21:30,740 --> 00:21:28,830 light which is stationary is only for 608 00:21:32,150 --> 00:21:30,750 about 30 seconds exactly definitely 609 00:21:34,540 --> 00:21:32,160 wasn't helicopter wasn't a Chinese 610 00:21:36,890 --> 00:21:34,550 lantern is too big for a Chinese lantern 611 00:21:39,170 --> 00:21:36,900 at the temperature dropped by 612 00:21:44,450 --> 00:21:39,180 anticipation rose and the light show 613 00:21:47,690 --> 00:21:44,460 began oh there you go Wow shooting star 614 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:47,700 that would have been some face justice 615 00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:49,890 burning up in entering on definitely yes 616 00:21:53,030 --> 00:21:51,510 hail on it it just went straight across 617 00:21:54,740 --> 00:21:53,040 it's lovely those particle of something 618 00:21:55,790 --> 00:21:54,750 that's as good of military you know 619 00:21:57,340 --> 00:21:55,800 obviously you guys have got a real 620 00:22:00,020 --> 00:21:57,350 passion for this what would your ideal 621 00:22:02,570 --> 00:22:00,030 situation be I mean if something was to 622 00:22:05,660 --> 00:22:02,580 come out of the sky and come close and 623 00:22:07,820 --> 00:22:05,670 it was some sort of craft with a door on 624 00:22:09,470 --> 00:22:07,830 the front but line development would you 625 00:22:13,730 --> 00:22:09,480 have we don't tell you without a doubt 626 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:13,740 engine yeah yeah yeah I'm pretty sick of 627 00:22:17,900 --> 00:22:15,450 this little donut or 20 foot you know 628 00:22:19,580 --> 00:22:17,910 and I'd like to see an experience I'll 629 00:22:20,900 --> 00:22:19,590 just try something new so cold I'd 630 00:22:23,390 --> 00:22:20,910 probably go in there as well what I mean 631 00:22:25,850 --> 00:22:23,400 yeah hurt a lot by ago I be straight 632 00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:25,860 admit the time had come to discuss dr. 633 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:27,990 Rhines flopping findings without Suppan 634 00:22:30,770 --> 00:22:28,530 friends 635 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:30,780 well after group now the one of the few 636 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:34,530 that we heard was an aircraft engineer 637 00:22:39,260 --> 00:22:36,240 who said that maybe this could have been 638 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:39,270 if you were slow-moving if there's no 639 00:22:42,590 --> 00:22:41,130 sound and maybe this was an issue from 640 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:42,600 what this chap was saying that on a dark 641 00:22:47,060 --> 00:22:44,730 night it's going to be obscured totally 642 00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:47,070 apart from the primitive like soft but 643 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:48,240 you're going to make the triangle that 644 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:50,130 triangle shape is raccoon with a lot of 645 00:22:51,980 --> 00:22:50,730 different people 646 00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:51,990 even with an airship you get noise 647 00:22:57,279 --> 00:22:54,110 because of the petrol engine with 648 00:22:59,200 --> 00:22:57,289 fellas go yeah I mean sad no noise at 649 00:23:00,610 --> 00:22:59,210 all you know if there were 200 witnesses 650 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:00,620 surely some of them would have turned 651 00:23:04,330 --> 00:23:02,510 around said oh we can discount it we 652 00:23:06,460 --> 00:23:04,340 know what we saw it was a blimp some 653 00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:06,470 people could see it as being a triangle 654 00:23:10,539 --> 00:23:08,240 others see it from different angles 655 00:23:12,310 --> 00:23:10,549 one witness I spoke to he saw a big 656 00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:12,320 black triangle over roughly where the 657 00:23:16,210 --> 00:23:14,240 Liberty Stadium is enough and he was 658 00:23:18,639 --> 00:23:16,220 looked at she looking down on it because 659 00:23:20,769 --> 00:23:18,649 he was on the hill above it and so he he 660 00:23:22,180 --> 00:23:20,779 was looking down on the triangle yes he 661 00:23:24,519 --> 00:23:22,190 was at a higher elevation than the 662 00:23:26,259 --> 00:23:24,529 object the object was quite low if 663 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:26,269 someone's like at a same level or maybe 664 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:28,010 they're looking down slowly other if 665 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:29,330 this did they also see in that same 666 00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:31,010 triangular shape and that becomes a lot 667 00:23:35,379 --> 00:23:33,110 more I'm thinking of what can walk in 668 00:23:37,180 --> 00:23:35,389 that possibly be in our journey the 669 00:23:39,759 --> 00:23:37,190 night of the triangles was hard to fully 670 00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:39,769 explain like maths or how a baby's made 671 00:23:44,169 --> 00:23:41,630 and before we knew it our own 672 00:23:46,299 --> 00:23:44,179 unexplainable event was about to unfold 673 00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:46,309 what do you reckon that orange light is 674 00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:48,289 out there you look at why are we looking 675 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:51,679 at this okay so relatively low down and 676 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:53,330 what is that in front of us there's 677 00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:55,370 something like an orange light floating 678 00:23:58,299 --> 00:23:55,760 in the sky 679 00:24:00,070 --> 00:23:58,309 oh yes drinks over towards portal but so 680 00:24:01,539 --> 00:24:00,080 that's that's definitely an anomaly gap 681 00:24:02,620 --> 00:24:01,549 just above the horizon where we're 682 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:02,630 looking to the east there's like an 683 00:24:07,210 --> 00:24:05,210 orange glow in looks like it's pulsing 684 00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:07,220 light yeah you're like a balloon for 685 00:24:11,710 --> 00:24:09,980 Nautilus someone look at this this what 686 00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:11,720 sort of an ocular what can you see Mike 687 00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:13,760 well it's not a star because this it's 688 00:24:16,899 --> 00:24:15,350 round it's an orange light there's no 689 00:24:19,149 --> 00:24:16,909 other is no green light or red light 690 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:19,159 snow white lights it's just hanging 691 00:24:23,950 --> 00:24:22,610 there hang in the orange it looks like 692 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:23,960 to me but we all street lights are 693 00:24:29,740 --> 00:24:26,769 orange you like it's a 1970 street light 694 00:24:32,580 --> 00:24:29,750 that's interested what we wanted to do 695 00:24:35,169 --> 00:24:32,590 is move but they spoke too soon 696 00:24:36,610 --> 00:24:35,179 obviously influenced by the power of our 697 00:24:40,330 --> 00:24:36,620 minds the orb 698 00:24:42,009 --> 00:24:40,340 began to rise since the suta risen 699 00:24:43,810 --> 00:24:42,019 demand I think it's raised there almost 700 00:24:45,129 --> 00:24:43,820 vertically and very slowly but it's 701 00:24:46,899 --> 00:24:45,139 definitely God moved up in the sky 702 00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:46,909 quicker than a planner would rise if 703 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:48,289 they did a planet like Jupiter I should 704 00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:49,490 be getting brighter as it goes higher 705 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:51,710 but it's not it sort of dimmed a bit now 706 00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:53,450 John with a highlighters now so that's 707 00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:54,799 amazing because what we're seeing here 708 00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:56,480 is looking at it associated with a start 709 00:25:00,850 --> 00:24:59,360 yes moving left it's moving more like 710 00:25:04,029 --> 00:25:00,860 that's moving it quite a lot of speed 711 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:04,039 the all flew towards us pulsing and 712 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:06,770 glowing ever brighter as it bore down 713 00:25:09,940 --> 00:25:07,490 upon us 714 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:09,950 the terrible truth revealed itself I 715 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:11,930 could see a burden to helicopter 716 00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:13,490 possessor that there's a red light to 717 00:25:17,860 --> 00:25:15,110 the back we've had a little mini 718 00:25:20,110 --> 00:25:17,870 experience there I've seen something at 719 00:25:22,660 --> 00:25:20,120 first hopefully I'll be scared maybe a 720 00:25:24,790 --> 00:25:22,670 little bit of we did come out but that's 721 00:25:26,290 --> 00:25:24,800 quite nice is that through your 722 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:26,300 experience guys you prove what you know 723 00:25:29,650 --> 00:25:27,890 you might explain it away 724 00:25:31,870 --> 00:25:29,660 yeah I'm it's quite logical what are you 725 00:25:33,790 --> 00:25:31,880 getting in Iran only there's a red light 726 00:25:35,170 --> 00:25:33,800 at the back yeah nothing comes over you 727 00:25:37,780 --> 00:25:35,180 can sort of see the flashing lights on 728 00:25:39,370 --> 00:25:37,790 it so have science triumphs once again 729 00:25:40,690 --> 00:25:39,380 or all the colour convinced John that 730 00:25:44,890 --> 00:25:40,700 the light of reality could outshine 731 00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:44,900 fantasy now I'm looking up I can see the 732 00:25:49,330 --> 00:25:46,400 Milky Way I could see millions of stars 733 00:25:51,070 --> 00:25:49,340 okay it blows my mind that like those 734 00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:51,080 photon trail of stars has travel for 735 00:25:56,260 --> 00:25:53,600 sort of millions of years across overall 736 00:25:59,020 --> 00:25:56,270 we imaginable tractors space this is the 737 00:26:01,480 --> 00:25:59,030 beauty of nature of science there's 738 00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:01,490 nothing there that can't be explained by 739 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:04,400 science and by fact but doesn't make any 740 00:26:07,930 --> 00:26:06,770 less amazing doesn't make any less a 741 00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:07,940 stone and doesn't make it any less 742 00:26:15,130 --> 00:26:11,600 magical I think it's overwhelming - 743 00:26:17,380 --> 00:26:15,140 thank you yes out there now yes there is 744 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:17,390 a rate of dogs with human faces looking 745 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:19,370 down upon us white I'm not selling on 746 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:20,690 life out there not saying there's not 747 00:26:23,710 --> 00:26:22,610 millions of life forms out there I'm 748 00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:23,720 just saying I don't think they were in 749 00:26:28,090 --> 00:26:26,510 triangular-shaped craft in Swansea 1983 750 00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:28,100 right I'm just saying that the universe 751 00:26:32,430 --> 00:26:30,080 is a wonderful thing John the signs of 752 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:32,440 it there's probably like a load of a 753 00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:34,730 planet full of things that look like the 754 00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:36,980 General Zod in Superman why do our 755 00:26:41,050 --> 00:26:39,110 brothers embrance heads are just the 756 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:41,060 faces of zebras and not even his Everest 757 00:26:44,380 --> 00:26:41,450 head 758 00:26:45,850 --> 00:26:44,390 General Zod with the Zebras face you 759 00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:45,860 literally does everything I say go into 760 00:26:49,030 --> 00:26:47,510 warning familiar there are some planets 761 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:49,040 where people are just made of gas right 762 00:26:52,330 --> 00:26:50,690 well you still know with your torch and 763 00:26:54,970 --> 00:26:52,340 go back in the car okay you can roll up 764 00:26:57,820 --> 00:26:54,980 to the to the dogface n dogface meant 765 00:27:00,940 --> 00:26:57,830 people with with worms instead of arms 766 00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:00,950 mica boat Gill people we don't even swim 767 00:27:04,990 --> 00:27:02,960 but float for the air yeah hailed like 768 00:27:07,270 --> 00:27:05,000 fish a peace-loving planet people made 769 00:27:09,610 --> 00:27:07,280 out of flowers but with human legs go 770 00:27:11,950 --> 00:27:09,620 away entire race of people with onions 771 00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:11,960 instead of eyes Mike I hope they abduct 772 00:27:20,340 --> 00:27:16,880 you yeah me too Mike me too